Where were you born and raised?
I am a third generation Tucsonan on my father’s side. I was born in Florence, Ariz. because my father was teaching in Coolidge, but he moved the family back to Tucson before my first birthday. I attended Jefferson Park Elementary, Doolen Jr. High and Catalina High School. I attended one semester at the University of Arizona but dropped out when I learned about the pending arrival of my daughter. That’s when I went to work at the Tucson Citizen.
What about family members?
I am lucky to still have my parents and I have one sister, two brothers, one daughter and a fabulous son-in-law.
What did you want to be when you were a kid?
I was in third grade when I announced to my grandfather that I wanted to be Brenda Starr, who was a reporter in a cartoon strip that used to run in the Citizen. She had exciting adventures, got to solve complex problems and mysterious and had many romances along the way.
How and when did you come to the Citizen, and what was your first job there?
I started working at the Citizen in 1986 as the “movie times girl” where I would call all the theaters and get the upcoming weekend schedule to run in the paper. I also did public records, which involved me going to the different courthouses every day and using a manual typewriter in the clerk’s office to type up divorce filings, sentencing and bankruptcies. I would then go back to the office and retype the information into the computer then use a rotary dial phone with suction cups attached to the computer terminal and wait 15 to 20 minutes for the information to transmit to the editors. That words somehow floated through the phone line to another location blew my mind.
I became a full-time reporter in 1988 and covered everything from crime to higher education, medicine and business.
Do you remember your first by-lined story?
I was still a clerk and the only one in the downtown bureau on a Friday afternoon when I got a call that someone had vandalized one of the statues at the cathedral. I convinced my editors that I could step in and was instructed to take notes and send them along. I carefully wrote down everything the police said about the crime and interviewed the monsignor at the cathedral and a parishioner who was weeping at the scene. This was my big chance to show the editors that I could write and I had been reading and studying how other reporters crafted stories, so instead of sending notes I sent it over in story form. It ran on the front page the next day and after that the editors started giving me little assignments here and there that I could work on after my clerical duties were completed. I was given a summer internship in 1988 and became a full fledged reporter that fall.
When did you move to the Daily Star?
I joined the Star in 2007 as a business writer covering real estate and economic development and did some other jobs along the way but returned to my first love of business writing in 2012.
If you were interviewing someone to take this beat, what are the two most important skills you’d be looking for?
A nerd. Someone who can use NNN and REIT in a sentence that makes sense. And, exceptional people skills because the business beat doesn’t always rely on public records but on the trust of developers, brokers, real estate agents who think of you when they are working on a project.
Are there many women in the local or state commercial RE business—either in front of the reporter’s pad or behind it—or are you one of the few?
It is certainly still a male-dominated industry, with regard to developers, contractors and construction workers but I have seen more women in commercial real estate broker positions through the years. I don’t know the makeup of business writers as a whole, but the majority of my mail is addressed “Dear sir”.
Are Southern AZ commercial builders and developers keeping up with the demand, or is there something holding them back?
We’re doing a good job with the wrecking ball on outdated retail and office space to keep up. We recently had the first industrial spec building break ground near the airport, which is very encouraging but the multifamily developments aren’t meeting demand due, in part, to pushback from neighborhoods about heights, density and traffic. The result is rising rents at existing properties and waiting lists for affordable housing.
Our building is currently on the market. What sort of business would be a good fit here in your opinion?
I would split the sale in two. For the production side of the building, I would look for a self-storage tenant, which is wildly underserved with all the new job announcements that are mostly made up of people transferring here. I would then empty out both newsrooms and bill them as recording studios with green room capabilities that don’t require a lot of amenities because workers aren’t housed there. They arrive, film, wrap up and go home. We recently had a film crew use the empty Citizen space and they loved it.